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Posted by Stephen Green  ·  28 August 2005

"Act of God" is what the guy on CNN called Hurricane Katrina. To most of us, that means some random and unavoidable catastrophe. Once it's over, we clean up, fix up, and move on.

But that's not how others see an Act of God. To them, it's Divine Retribution in the Old Testament sense. Or to be more accurate, in the Really New Testament sense - ie, the Koran. Those others see Hurricane Katrina as God smiting the wicked.

Well, guess what? We will clean up, fix up, and move on. And while we'll rightfully mourn our dead, there won't be very many of them.

Then imagine how many would die if that same Act of God hit a major city on the coast of, say, Pakistan. Thousands dead? Tens of thousands? More? And after, Americans would come in to help clean up, fix up, and move on.

I never believed in God, but I still sometimes think He/She/It must be on our side.

But - nah. We're simply decent people who understand that an Act of God really is just some random, unavoidable tragedy. We lend it no special significance, and we'll help clean up no matter who God smites.

In the meantime, if you do pray - now would be a good time to do so for the people still in Katrina's path.

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> Those others see Hurricane Katrina
> as God smiting the wicked.

That would be the Jerry Falwells of the world. They also think 9/11 was because of 'Liberals and Gays and Lesbians, People for the American Way, Abortionists ..."

http://vilot.com/falwell.html

I guess I will have to update that, given the new hurricane ...

Posted by: Tom at August 28, 2005 09:07 PM

"I never believed in God, but I Still sometimes think He/She/It must be on our side."

I've always believed in God and I do believe that.

As someone already said, the only people who believe in a vengeful God sending storms (or Islamofascit terrorists) to enact his revenge are moonbats like Falwell and Robertson.

I no more believe that God wishes the people remaining in New Orleans to die than I believe that he wished the people at the World Trade Center to die.

Posted by: Doug at August 28, 2005 09:27 PM

Responded at my blog.

Posted by: Voice of Reason at August 28, 2005 10:00 PM

I apologize in advance for the smarmy comment I'm about to make given the seriousness of the storm that is on her way, but I wonder how many countries are "rushing" to prepare for all the aid we're going to receive in the aftermath? I wonder if some country will be generous enough to send their aircraft carrier? I wonder how long it is going to take Kofi set foot in New Orleans pondering the question, "Where are the people?" There's no oil for him to skim here, so I'm going to assume that he'll stay put.

Not only are we going to clean up, we are going to do it right and we'll do it ourselves--and I'm just fine with that.

Posted by: TF6S at August 28, 2005 10:02 PM

Tom:

It's not just the Jerry Falwells of the world, it's also the James Wolcotts. (And wouldn't those two just love being lumped together!)

Posted by: Ian Hamet at August 28, 2005 10:47 PM

And while we'll rightfully mourn our dead, there won't be very many of them.

Thank you for saying that. Cause I'm getting annoyed with CNN and others who are reporting on their article where they posted about Katrina may be 'our Asian tsunami'.

I think I must be the only one annoyed with that headline.

Posted by: Angie at August 28, 2005 11:01 PM

Good message, but "devine" should be spelled "divine". I'm just trying to keep language standards reasonable here. Hopefully Andy himself would have agreed.

Posted by: daver at August 28, 2005 11:22 PM

Hmm...sounds like you are a hedge fund investor - why encourage people to pray when you do not think anyone is listening?

TF6S - concur.

Posted by: Mike at August 28, 2005 11:23 PM

A tragic and hopefully erroneous quibble.

I will be pleasantly surprised if this doesn't result in over 1,000 dead.

The city is 12-20 feet below sealevel.
The surge will be 20-30 feet ABOVE sealevel.
The math does not bode well.
This ignores wind.

If the Superdome collapses 10,000+ are just gone.
The disease aftermath will likely be bad too.
I'm giving blood tomorrow.

Otherwise I agree with your post wholeheartedly.

Posted by: Ken Talton at August 28, 2005 11:37 PM

Ken,

Glad to know you'll be giving blood. I was a couple pints away from my second Gallon Pin when I was told the Red Cross had been throwing away my blood all that time. Turns out, a temporary childhood blood disorder from 30 years ago disqualified me from donating.

But those who can, should.

Please.

Posted by: Stephen Green at August 28, 2005 11:42 PM

re: divine retribution, I wonder what Roberston, Falwell, et al., think about all the boy scout leaders struck & killed by lightning this summer.

Posted by: rbj at August 29, 2005 06:40 AM

If the Koran is the Really New Testament, does that make the Book of Mormon the Really, Really New Testament?

Fingers crossed for our friends on the coast.

Posted by: Uncle Squid at August 29, 2005 07:42 AM

Then there are those who don't consider hurricanes to be "Acts of God" and find it rather silly that the people who tend to call them that don't really believe in God. Does that guy from CNN even go to church?

Most Christians I think find the term slightly offensive, and rather see the fact that so many lived, and the random acts of kindness that will occur after Katrina passes to be the true "Acts of God". I guess it just depends on your perspective.

Posted by: Nick at August 29, 2005 08:01 AM

Yes, Nick, your observation is keen. It does annoy me that a tv personality who would never praise God on tv would blame Him for a disaster. It's almost like a smear job; they quickly attach God's name to bad things yet credit any good things to chance or luck.

Posted by: FL Mom at August 29, 2005 08:43 AM

Steve -- I've donated 18 units to date. I was very tired that week... *g*

Posted by: richard mcenroe at August 29, 2005 06:14 PM

>It's not just the Jerry Falwells of the
>world, it's also the James Wolcotts.

There's a huge difference. The specific URL you referenced doesn't appear (to me) to be indicting any particular group of people for any responsibility for the crap that happened.

Jerry Falwell has blamed a whole swath of people for September 11, and I find that reprehensible -- especially from a so-called "person of faith."

What a crock of shit.

Posted by: tom at August 29, 2005 08:09 PM

tom, james is hoping that all the 'morons' who don't TOTALLY agree with him die!

Sadly, this probably includes you & 99.999999999% of Americans.

No, he doesn't blame, he implicates us all for Nature's fury & hopes that we will 'pay for our sins'.

Where's your sense of nuance?

Posted by: skip at August 29, 2005 10:59 PM

TO: Stephen Green
RE: Excuse Me, But...

"But that's not how others see an Act of God. To them, it's Divine Retribution in the Old Testament sense." -- Stephen Green

...your ignorance is showing. Again.

Acts of God are more beneficial than retribution. He's saved my sorry a-- moments before total destruction on several occasions.

Not that He can't or won't act in the other manner. But generally speaking, His retribution comes more from that other guy and He not protecting some one or group from that other guy's actions.

You REALLY should study more.

Regards,

Chuck(le)

Posted by: Chuck Pelto at August 30, 2005 03:25 PM

TO: Doug
RE: Okay...

"As someone already said, the only people who believe in a vengeful God sending storms (or Islamofascit terrorists) to enact his revenge are moonbats like Falwell and Robertson." -- Doug

...please explain the latter part of Revelation to me. I'm particularly interested in hearing your understanding of those 'bowls of wrath'.

Regards,

Chuck(le)

Posted by: Chuck Pelto at August 30, 2005 03:27 PM

TO: Stephen Green
RE: And Some People Just Don't Believe...

"In the meantime, if you do pray - now would be a good time to do so for the people still in Katrina's path." -- Stephen Green

But the storm actually turned out to be much less powerful than predicted. Meteorologists say a puff of dry air coming out of the Midwest weakened Katrina just before it reached land, transforming a Category 5 monster into a less-threatening Category 3 storm.

The last-minute gust also pushed Katrina slightly to the east of its Big Easy-bound trajectory, sparing New Orleans a direct hit _ though not horrendous harm.

...in the power of prayer. Let alone God.

Regards,

Chuck(le)

Posted by: Chuck Pelto at August 31, 2005 12:39 AM

P.S. I wonder if Pat was at work again. I wouldn't put it past him.

Posted by: Chuck Pelto at August 31, 2005 12:40 AM



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