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Posted by Stephen Green  ·  31 May 2005

Today, I heard the heartbeat of the 71-day-old creature currently residing inside my wife.

In 32 weeks, I'll finally get to meet the little guy.

Wow.

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That is cool. If I forgot to say so earlier, Congratulations to both you and your wife. My wife and I are looking at starting our family around the end of the year (when she's closer to being done with her Masters). BTW, any plans on the all Lego room for the little one?

Posted by: Greg at May 31, 2005 10:37 PM

Congratulations!

Posted by: Edward O'Connor at May 31, 2005 10:40 PM

Guy? You know for sure? I missed that post. GerberPundit? PampersPundit? hmmm, the mind boggles.

During our 20 week ultrasound, my daughter yawned on camera. It's even cute in black and white.

10 more weeks until I have 2 women in my life. :)

Posted by: Scott at June 1, 2005 12:49 AM

Enjoy!
But 10 weeks + 32 weeks equals 42 weeks. Isn't that a bit long for a pregnancy?

Posted by: David Gerstman at June 1, 2005 04:36 AM

Congrats to both of you co-creators. I remember the day I heard that heartbeat vividly...even though for me it was 25 years ago.

Posted by: Harry Forbes at June 1, 2005 04:43 AM

That's awesome. There's only one thing cooler - that's holding the baby itself. Congrats.

Posted by: Kathleen A at June 1, 2005 05:12 AM

I can still remember, in detail, the birth of our first daughter who's now 21. It is a life changing deal, but in a good way.
Best wishes and prayers for you both.

Posted by: Roger Fraley at June 1, 2005 06:05 AM

I bet it's human.

Posted by: Dan Collins at June 1, 2005 06:22 AM

That is cool. I still remember the tears streaming down my face when I saw my son for the first time on his ultrasound.

Your life is about to change, irreparably, for the better.

Posted by: JoeB at June 1, 2005 06:57 AM

Having just gone through this experience, I can remember with vivid detail when we first heard our daughters heart beating. An unbelievable experience that never got old, I always looked forward to hearing the heartbeat with every visit!

So did you hear the heartbeat on a doppler or during an ultrasound? I know at 10 weeks the sex is determined, but I didn't think you could see it at that point. Just wait until you see the hands, feet, head, and everything else on the ultrasound, it's awesome.

Posted by: Mike at June 1, 2005 07:21 AM

I know at 10 weeks the sex is determined

I'm pretty sure the sex, at least genotypically, is determined at conception. That whole XX/XY thing, see. ;)

I haven't gotten to hear the heartbeat of #2 yet, but will be going to the next ultrasound to see the future Malevolent Henchperson and Sibling to Benevolent World Leader Fiona.

We shall toast them all this afternoon, multiple times I'm sure.

Posted by: andy at June 1, 2005 07:39 AM

Congratulations!

My wife had her ultrasound last week and we learned our fourth will be a girl. That evens us up 2 and 2. Get ready for the wildest, most wonderful ride of your life. Parenthood.

God Bless.

Posted by: JunkHead at June 1, 2005 07:48 AM

The heartbeat is good. The ultrasounds are better. The kid finally out is coolest of all. Brace yourself for massive life-transformation. One thing people don't say much about, but I have noticed. It will take your love and friendship with your wife to a newer and more grown-up level -- though not stress free! Remember, the best thing you can give the kid is two parents who love each other, so he or she will see what to aim for in life. Second best thing is brothers and sisters -- but one thing at a time!

Posted by: Lexington Green at June 1, 2005 08:02 AM

Mazel Tov!

We've got three. Finally got a little lady 7 months ago so we can stop.

I'd be curious if your doc offers the 4-D ultrasound. We never had that available. Get a video tape of whatever they do offer and show it to your kid when they hit 5. The look on my son's face was priceless.

Posted by: Chuck at June 1, 2005 08:45 AM

I hate to be the voice of consistency here, but haven't I seen you post that you support a woman's right to choose whether or not to abort her pregnancy? So why the excitement about that little heartbeat? It must either be: a) considered a secondary heartbeat of your wife that while distinct from her primary heartbeat is not that of a distinct individual; or b) the heartbeat of a distinct individual who cannot be considered human. I don't see much to get excited about here.

I would like to wish you congratulations, but I will have to wait until your wife actually delivers so as not to usurp her autonomy over her body. I would not want to wish you congratulations then have her decide to terminate the pregnancy.

Posted by: PJM at June 1, 2005 08:55 AM

Hey PJM.

If that was a serious post, then I have one thing to say:

STFU.

Asshole.

Okay, that was two. So sue me.

Posted by: NukemHill at June 1, 2005 09:37 AM

PJM...

to quote Nukemhill:

STFU.

I'm sure it's possible to be more tasteless... but only someone like you would know. If I was around to hear someone say that to a friend of mine, they'd leave with two black eyes or worse.

Posted by: Rick at June 1, 2005 09:47 AM

PJM,

I just knew, reading the post, that someone was going to chime in with something like that.

Not everything is about politics. Can't you just be happy for the guy, and his wife? Good grief.

Posted by: JPS at June 1, 2005 09:57 AM

Actually, gender is not determined at conception. All babies are conceived female. There is a particular hormone that must be introduced to the developing baby at a particular point in gestation (8 weeks, I think, is the accepted date, but it's been a while and I could be off) to make a baby male.

I've had four sons, and I have the ultrasounds of each of them on videotape. At the time, this seemed like the most amazing thing, and I suppose in some ways it still is for our oldest.

But really, I've noticed as they've grown that it just gets more amazing. Feeling those first movements is even more amazing than the ultrasound. Seeing your baby born is even more amazing than that.

The first smile, crawling, walking, talking - each of these is still more amazing than the last. My third son (4 yo), hearing my wife telling the older two about molecules, asked if he was made of molecules. When informed that he was, he asked if the molecules decided to make him.

And my eldest, at 9, is already engaging in rather sarcastic political commentary, comparing (for example) the hubris of reporters (a constant gripe shared by my wife and I) to the overconfidence of the internally-rotting Franco-Spanish combined fleet at Trafalgar.

So hold this ultrasound in your heart, but make sure you have plenty of room left over, because it just gets better from here.

Many congratulations.

Posted by: Jeff Medcalf at June 1, 2005 10:00 AM

PablumPundit!!! What a concept;-)
Congratulations!

Posted by: Pamela at June 1, 2005 10:04 AM

Jeff - hence my inclusion of "genotypically." I'm aware that biology can go awry during development, was just trying to (unlike PJM) be funny.

Posted by: andy at June 1, 2005 10:23 AM

We'll have to have a big post-partum party. A huge celebration of life, vodka, and all the pain, irritation, joy, confusion, love, and pride that comes with parenting.

Posted by: zombyboy at June 1, 2005 10:46 AM

Congratulations! 12 years ago I heard the heartbeat of my granddaughter shortly before her birth. It was so awe inspiring (awesome doesn't cut it as a word anymore). I felt I was in the middle of 150 years, at least. My mother was 80 and I was 56, and the granddaughter's potential lifespan is probably 90, so I did a quick reality check estimate and thought 150 years.
Your little ones lifespan is going to be at the 90 year estimate. Think about it. YOU will be affecting what happens in the world at least 50 years from now. But don't count on it for the teen years. Have fun there is nothing like a newborn baby.

Posted by: Ruth H at June 1, 2005 11:06 AM

That's terrific. Our doc wasn't able to find the heartbeat until 12 weeks; cool that yours was locatable at 8.

You will love the 20-week ultrasound. It's pretty amazing. It is another 14 weeks (or so) until I can speak to the actual birth experience, but so far, pregnancy has been tiring but fun. (I didn't really have any morning sickness.)

Just this weekend my husband was able to feel it when the baby moved around; I'd been feeling flutters, then kicks, for about 10 weeks, so it was great to finally let him in on that excitement.

Enjoy!

Posted by: denise at June 1, 2005 11:11 AM

It was tasteless, rude, and inappropriate to post what I did. I did it anyway.

When I was in high school our World History teacher showed us documentary footage shot by soldiers who had liberated some WWII concentration camps. In one film the American soldiers go into the nearby town and round up some of the town's people and bring them back to the camp. They show them the piles of shoes whose wearers had long since been incinerated or interred in a mass grave. They showed them some grizzly items that the nazis had made from the flesh of some of their victims: wallets, lampshades, etc. . . They ask these people how could you let this go on a half mile from your houses? How could you not know?

Some of the women fainted. Most just stood there dumbstruck. I imagine the reason they allowed it to occur was because they pretended that while something was going on over there it is certainly not the topic of polite conversation. Kristalnacht and the ghettoes probably made for awkward discussions over tea. So they pretended that nothing that bad could really be happening over there, and if it were it really wasn't their concern.

My first born is three months old. Prior to my wife's pregnancy I was probably reluctantly pro-life. But when I heard my son's heartbeat, when I watched him moving his hands and legs on the ultrasound, he ripped my heart out. And I would think about the fact that he was awarded no protection. The only value that this little person had was that value placed on him by his mother and I. I just could not shake the fact that he was worthy of more than that. His value, his worth is independent of the motives and desires of the two flawed people to whom he was born. It offends me that the law says otherwise.

When can we discuss the merits of the pro-life position if not in light of the joy and exuberance of an expectant father?

I'll STFU now.

Posted by: PJM at June 1, 2005 12:55 PM

Congrats Steve!

innasmuch as its probably too early, what are your ideas for names?
-----------------------------
hmm I see your point PJM.

...but wait untill Steve gets gets assailed with acid from his friendly neigborhood NOW representative before you bring up your annectdote.

Posted by: voxdilecti at June 1, 2005 01:27 PM

Sure it wasn't the sound of him knocking back an airline sized bottle of vodka?

Posted by: me at June 1, 2005 02:21 PM

Start saving for college.


And congratulations.

Posted by: N. O'Brain at June 1, 2005 04:47 PM

On a light note, I first read that entry as saying "Today, I heard the heartbeat of the 71-YEAR-old creature currently residing inside my wife." Took me a long moment to understand what the hell he was talking about. :)

Ditto on the Mazel Tov!

As for PJM: the excitement comes with the potential for life. There is nothing wrong with living in the future a bit and being totally excited by a tiny representation of the joy to come. But the potential for life is not the same as a fullborn life. It isn't nothing, to be discared without care either... But there is a reasonable in between.

Those who support the choice, the option, for a would-be parent to terminate a pregnancy before bringing a life into the world appreciate the seeds of life just as much as you do. If someone decides they want to give birth to that life and raise it as a new member of their family, they aren't going to wait for the first day out of the womb to have feelings about it. They are just going to recognize that not all pregnancies are as joyful, that carrying a pregnancy to birth isn't always the right choice, and that bringing a child to life is a big decision as well.

Your comparison to the death camps (where the close family of many of us died or barely survived) is not accurate at all. It's more like the statements of those hyper-ideological vegans who condemn all meat-eaters as murderers, or the fly off the cliff hysteria of those on the looney left who think we are already living in a full blown fascist state here. You already know it's in bad taste, too, so I really don't see a reason for it.

Posted by: J. Kende at June 1, 2005 04:56 PM

If you think an ultrasound exciting...just wait. There is nothing more wonderful than the birth of a child. All the best.

But, as an aside, I brought pictures of my daughter in utero from an ultrasound to my work, in a newsroom. A woman who said she was deeply into women's rights told me that she believed ultrasounds were part of a right-wing conspiracy to make people think that fetus was a baby.

It was a little weird, I've gotta say. Didn't endear me to anyone. "Hey, that's not propaganda...it's my first picture of my kid."

Posted by: JennyD at June 1, 2005 04:56 PM

PJM, speaking as a hardcore, orthodox Roman Catholic pro-Lifer and father of 4 with one on the way, let me say that you must be the most retarded person on "my side" of this issue in the whole wide world.

Posted by: Lexington Green at June 1, 2005 05:37 PM

Congratulations!

You can rename your site "Bottlepundit and the Night Feedings of Eternity" soon.

There's nothing better in life. Everything you've done up to this point just turned to dust.

(If you think you're pro-killing-terrorists NOW, wait until the first time you hold your baby and think "there are people who want to hurt this little bugger". Your knuckles will turn white.)

Posted by: Robert at June 1, 2005 05:49 PM

Congratulations to you and Melissa! You'll tell us about the baby registry so we can send gifts, si?

Posted by: A Recovering Liberal at June 1, 2005 05:56 PM

Invest in that software that types what you say so that you can blog about the late nights dealing with colic (Hint: try running the vaccuum cleaner). You can't type while carrying a screaming baby and pacing.
Of course, I add my congrats. I also warn you that every one of your friends who are parents already will NOT be sympathic to whatever you whine to them about....

I found a baby bottle that looked like a 7up bottle. I shall endevour to return to that store to find a more "adult beverage" type bottle. Or possibly, the 7up can be modified. What comes in a green bottle?

Posted by: Becky in Ohio at June 1, 2005 07:03 PM

So is the little tiny GOP button on the ultrasound a problem?

And does mean you'll be starting some new threads at 3 a.m.?

Posted by: richard mcenroe at June 1, 2005 08:08 PM

Congrats!!!

Posted by: Alli at June 1, 2005 10:38 PM

"Congratulations to you and Melissa! You'll tell us about the baby registry so we can send gifts, si?"

RL -- Log onto amazon.com. Go to baby registries and type in Melissa Green, Colorado.

I did, but for a not-so-generous purpose. I was starting my own baby registry and looking for ideas.

Posted by: denise at June 1, 2005 11:23 PM

Keeping the politics out of it, you're about to experience one of the true, true hapinesses of life. Nothing can colour that authentic joy you're about to experience.

*Sniff*

Look, now I went and got the keyboard all wet and short-circuity. God bless man.

Posted by: Jon Stroud at June 2, 2005 05:40 AM

Cool! Congrats Steve & Melissa. 32 weeks, eh? There's always the chance that you'll get to meet him sooner than that. (All mine were at least 1 week early. You never can tell with babies.) :)

Posted by: FL Mom at June 2, 2005 09:58 AM

Today I watched the heartbeat of my 22 year old, 6 feet 5 inch 280 pound son. Good luck! They do grow up.

Posted by: CSM Thomas A. Teel (USA Retired) at June 2, 2005 02:28 PM

Congratulations to you and Melissa. Babies heads smell so wonderful, just nudging at the space between your shoulder and chin!

Posted by: Kathianne at June 4, 2005 11:15 PM

Very cool, you and Melissa will make great parents. I'm very happy for you both. Our kids are our greatest achievement...

Posted by: TalkLeft at June 5, 2005 12:02 AM



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