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Hey, If Newsweek Can Spread Unsubstantiated Rumors...
Posted by Will Collier  ·  26 May 2005

I'm hearing quite a bit of chatter through the USAF contractor grapevine that Zarqawi is dead. The only reason I mention it here is, the rumor is apparently rampant at Hurlburt AFB Field, home of the Air Force Special Ops guys, some of whom would be in a position to know such things.

Take it for what you paid for it, but I certainly hope the murderous son of a bitch is assuming room temperature in Hell.

Comments

Our prayers worked???

Posted by: Sandy P at May 26, 2005 11:27 AM

Nothing here at MARFORRES here in NOLA. Not even a hint.

WAR DAMN EAGLE!

surf-actant

Posted by: surf-actant at May 26, 2005 11:33 AM

Another rumor: Kerry signed his form 180 to release his military records weeks ago, but Don Rumsfeld flushed it down the toilet. I read about it in Newsweek!

Posted by: Dave at May 26, 2005 11:53 AM

Where's that cardboard shipping-carton full of dry-ice when we need it?

Posted by: Ted B. at May 26, 2005 12:04 PM

This may spawn riots in Christian communities throughout North America, Will. Be very, very careful about what you report.

Posted by: jack white at May 26, 2005 12:51 PM

...but then again, you had more than one source...

Posted by: jack white at May 26, 2005 12:53 PM

Zarquari hit by frags from a US airstrike, per WND's G2 report from 05 May, link below. Those USAF SpecOps zoomies might indeed have heard the right word....

http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44430

Posted by: archy at May 26, 2005 01:32 PM

What good are rumors? If I wanted that, I would read Newsweek.

Posted by: PacRim Jim at May 26, 2005 01:47 PM

A bit quick for my tastes, but you take what you can get.

BTW: It's Hurlburt Field, not AFB. Not sure why they never upgraded the designation, but they haven't yet.

Posted by: arky at May 26, 2005 02:10 PM

"48 hours" rule, people. Let's see the body first.

And remember that a martyr or worst, a ghost (i.e., unconfirmed kill), would be just as useful to AQ as a live body at this point.

Posted by: V-Man at May 26, 2005 02:55 PM

The flushing of the Koran business is apparently being proven. Sorry guys.

"FBI Records Cite Quran Abuse Allegations"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/25/AR2005052501390_pf.html

Posted by: Vince at May 26, 2005 02:57 PM

There's only one reason any group gives out a press release regarding negative information--because the reality is worse. Zarqwai is dead. What does this mean for the insurgents? Very little. The insurgents are primarily Sunni locals. The Administration has been playing up Zarqwai for a long time in order to boost up its rationale for going into Iraq.

Posted by: Rob W at May 26, 2005 03:05 PM

I've been reading around today on Z's supposed lung injury. Seems that if he was shot in the lung, he's pretty much done for without massive antibiotics and hospitalization. The bullet probably hit a rib on the way into the lung, which means it will drag bits of bone with it, along with scraps of the cloth in his clothes, which I imagine are not too clean anyway. That drags all those germs into the lung itself. The lung collapses from the tear. Blood getting into the lungs and resulting from the tear will pool in the bottom of the lung. It's very painful. It will likely lead to septicemia and death without treatment. I am not an MD, but this would seem to be what's in store if the injury rumors are true. Any MD out there will correct me if I am way off base here.

Posted by: Scott in CA at May 26, 2005 03:06 PM

Hurlburt and Duke Field are part Eglin AFB.

Posted by: Bart at May 26, 2005 03:08 PM

Vince, if that's your standard of "proof," then I've got a special sticker to sell you that will double--yes, double--the life of your cell phone battery.

Posted by: Ian Wood at May 26, 2005 03:18 PM

The flushing of the Koran business is apparently being proven. Sorry guys.

"FBI Records Cite Quran Abuse Allegations"

No such thing,it merely proves there were allegations,not that the allegations were true.

Posted by: PeterUK at May 26, 2005 03:23 PM

Rob W,
I'd be very interested in your souce for that point about the insurgents being "...primarily Sunni locals." Everything I am reading and hearing these days is that the vast majority of them are foreigners coming in through Syria.

surf-actant

Posted by: surf-actant at May 26, 2005 04:10 PM

Rumor or not...its good to see a murderer get his due. After watching the vids of those beheadings of innocents reason and compassion for these islamic fascists is non-existent. I feel for those who what peace and fredom to practice true Islam, but terrorists need to be exterminated.

Posted by: The Quick Spoon at May 26, 2005 04:46 PM

rumors are poss disinfo to take the heat off him in iraq.

THEREFORE - true or not: it's time to turn the heat WAY UP and crush them

Posted by: reliapundit at May 26, 2005 06:51 PM

From curiosity: given all the reports of Koran abuse, going back at least two years (also torture, murder, etc. of innocent people illegally imprisoned)... just what would it take for you to admit that it really happened?

Posted by: Janus Daniels at May 26, 2005 08:05 PM

Zarqawi is NOT dead.

He's "stable."

Posted by: richard mcenroe at May 26, 2005 08:47 PM

Hey lefties:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Guantanamo detainee who told an FBI agent in 2002 that U.S. personnel there had flushed a Koran in a toilet retracted his allegation when questioned this month by military investigators, the Pentagon said on Thursday.

That said, I wouldn't care if they took a daily steaming, corn-punctuated, runny dump on the Koran. Do you think the Bible or the American flag get treated with respect over there?

Posted by: Dave at May 26, 2005 09:00 PM

It's very painful.

Mm. It's too bad the Iraqis didn't get him.

Now, about Bin Laden...

Posted by: rosignol at May 26, 2005 11:09 PM

The rumor I heard is that Zarqawi is holed up in Michael Issikoff's house, along with Osama. Well, it might be true, given the way he writes unsubstantiated reports that hurt the US, prove that it isn't.

Posted by: rbj at May 27, 2005 07:10 AM

When terrorists are SPECIFICALLY TAUGHT TO ACCUSE THE US OF SUCH THINGS WHETHER THEY HAPPEN OR NOT, it'll take a hell of a lot more than two years of terrorists accusing us of such things before I believe it.

Posted by: Dave at May 27, 2005 09:51 AM

Vince,

"Al Qaeda said it, so it must be true" is not proof.

Posted by: TallDave at May 27, 2005 10:43 AM

So what if the Koran was mishandled or outright abused? When the peacful Muslims routinely behead non-Muslim prisoners on filme I don't think too many people are going to be upset that someone may have stacked two Korans on top of a TV.

Posted by: careylenn at May 27, 2005 11:21 AM

Still not proof, but Hammorabi is also reporting that Zarqawi is dead.

Posted by: Matt at May 27, 2005 11:43 AM

'E's not dead, 'e's just pinin' for the fjords.

Posted by: Ernie G at May 27, 2005 01:19 PM

Do you want to knw who mutilates more Quran's than everone else every year?

The Governement of Saudi Arabia.

It's illigal to bring a non-saudi published Quran into Saudi Arabia; It is also required that every Muslim must make a pilgrimage to Mecca( in Saudi Arabia) at least once in their life. At the airports and border crossings of Saudi Arabia, The saudi's collect, and then destroy hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of Qurans a year.

Let's see the MSM run that story.

Posted by: EbeneezerSquid at May 27, 2005 02:38 PM

Actually, I found it amusing that Vince evidently didn't even read the story he linked to.

By the way, Vince, the Washington Post is the same company as Newsweek ... which is probably why they cut out of the story what everyone else has been printing - that the allegation is withdrawn by the one who made it.

Posted by: Robin Roberts at May 27, 2005 04:30 PM

Once again, from curiosity: given all the reports of Koran abuse, going back at least two years (also torture, murder, etc. of innocent people illegally imprisoned) what would it take for you to admit it? The reports come from many sources besides the percentage of prisoners actually guilty of anything, let alone the smaller percentage of those who ever had anything to do with AQ. Personally, I don't care; flags, books, etc. have no value except as symbols, so no meaning beside human life. I do care about having our troops die for nothing but Halliburton, and kill tens of thousands of innocent people for any reason.

Posted by: Janus Daniels at May 27, 2005 08:25 PM

Janus Daniels, given all the reports of unidentified flying objects, going back at least five decades (also landings and abductions, anal probes, etc. of innocent people) what would it take for you to admit that flying saucers from other planets are real? There is far more evidence for this, and many more first-person, on-the-record testimonies from reputable people, than for the reports of Koran abuse and torture. And if you *don't* believe in flying saucers, then why the convenient difference in standards of proof?

Posted by: Mike G in San Diego at May 28, 2005 01:06 AM

LOL. Mike G, I think you just sank his battleship.

Posted by: kenny mac at May 28, 2005 10:32 AM

I'll start believing your "landings and abductions, anal probes, etc. of innocent people" when I have corroboration, without contact between witnesses, for the same incident, photographs, confessions, and multiple articles in WSJ and other credible sources. That answers your question. May I have an answer to mine?

Posted by: Janus Daniels at May 28, 2005 10:58 AM

Will,
My sources tell me he is not dead, however, he was wounded. He is currently recovering from his wounds in a country very close to Iraq. The information I have is that it was a lung/upper chest type wound. The U.S. uses full metal jacket ammo for our rifles so if the projectile does not hit bone/cartilage there is a chance that the round went through clean and not doing as much damage as if it hit something. More to follow.

Posted by: CSM Thomas A. Teel (USA Retired) at May 31, 2005 05:54 AM

A co-worker of mine found himself playing poker at the Borgata with a guy who works in Air Force intelligence. When the subject of Zarqawi came up, the AF guy said, "Oh, yeah, you'll be hearing more about that soon."

How's that for an unsubstantiated rumor?

Posted by: Beck at May 31, 2005 07:16 AM



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