Rolling Stone's Tim Dickinson doesn't seem much impressed with MoveOn.org:
They signed up 500,000 supporters with an Internet petition -- but Bill Clinton still got impeached. They organized 6,000 candlelight vigils worldwide -- but the U.S. still invaded Iraq. They raised $60 million from 500,000 donors to air countless ads and get out the vote in the battle-ground states -- but George Bush still whupped John Kerry. A gambler with a string of bets this bad might call it a night. But MoveOn.org just keeps doubling down.
And:
...many party insiders worry that an Internet insurgency working hand in hand with a former Vermont governor will only succeed in pushing the party so far to the left that it can't compete in the red states. "It's electoral suicide," says Dan Gerstein, a former strategist for Joe Lieberman's presidential campaign. MoveOn committed a series of costly blunders last fall: It failed to remove two entries that compared Bush to Hitler from its online ad contest, and its expensive television spots barely registered in the campaign. One conservative commentator, alluding to MoveOn's breathless promotion of Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11, branded the group the "MooreOn" wing of the party. All of which leaves political veterans wondering: As MoveOn becomes a vital part of the Democratic establishment, will its take-no-prisoners attitude marginalize the party and strengthen the Republican stranglehold on power?
Ouch.
Read that in the print edition...
Wow, if you're on the left AND lost RS ya got some issues!
MooreOn. Was that Lee over at right stinkin' dot com, or his other site he and Jim have "MooreWatch"?
Anybody else think MoveOn is, by now, too good to be true? This Rolling Stone article is pretty damning... are they really that retarded? I find it hard to believe.
That's what happens when young middle-and-upper class (white)elites run things. For our own good, you know, even tho some are barely out of school.
Oh, jeez, it's the 70s again.
Yeeeaaaaaaagh!
And Oregon, and Washington, and Seattle, and the Guggenheim, and the National Endowment for the Arts, and then we're going to Washington, D.C. to take back the White House!
Yeeeeaaaagh!
I guess we know where Dr. Dean stands on physician-assisted suicide.
The reason MoveOn's ads didn't register was because they were indistinguishable from what the public was already getting from its broadcast news, papers and celebrities. This is the same problem the lefty blogs have. Unless they go deep into Mulder Country, they bring nothing new to the table.
On the other hand, though, they make great coal-mine canaries. You can always tell what the current Democratic Party's talking points are going to be in a week by checking out Kos and DU today...
Oh, jeez, it's the 70s again.
Nope. Some people *want* it to be the 70s again- with a disaster of a war from which US forces were withdrawn, the resignation of a Republican President, and the election of a Democratic one, the appeal to certain types is obvious...
But it's not going to happen.
