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Creeping Fascism
Posted by Stephen Green · 16 October 2004
From Knight-Ridder: If Osama bin Laden ever buys a rap album, he'll probably start with a CD by KRS-One. Now then, which do you suppose will happen to the man who publicly called for the US to destroy itself: A) Parker will be taken away during the night by jackbooted thugs and sent to a concentration camp, or And this is a fascist country in need of destruction? Comments
I know you elude to choice "B" being the most likely outcome; but can we go over the merits of "A" again? They don't sell the M5 anymore in the US, only the M3 (check out bmwusa.com). More likely he'll buy some large SUV. Posted by: Anthony at October 16, 2004 04:26 PMThose who spout the word "Fascist" usually have no idea what life in a totalitarian state is like. They merely want the publicity. Our cynical and jaded society can differentiate between the publicity seeker and the truth teller. Carter's certification of the Venezuelan Recall Election was a much worse offense against American society and ideals. We will pay for that mistake in American lives before the decade is over. Totalitarian states arrive in many ways. They seldom depart peacefully. Venezuela, Bolivia, Brazil are well along the path towards the next totalitarian region. China is sending troops to support UN efforts in Haiti. The future keeps crouching forward while the world debates the past.
Anthony, The new M5 was revealed recently, I think at the Paris Auto Show. And except for the dreaded "Bangle Butt," it's a beauty. For a BMW, that is. Posted by: Stephen Green at October 16, 2004 04:33 PM"America has to commit suicide if the world is to be a better place."
He'd buy an Escalade, with the cool rotating rims! Note to self... do not buy KRS-ONE CDs.... Posted by: Dasher at October 16, 2004 05:33 PM_Anybody_ can make an outrageous remark about 9/11. To say something outrageous about something ordinary takes talent. Try getting in the news talking about whether the pump needs cup grease. Posted by: Ron Hardin at October 16, 2004 05:35 PMMake that a note to the dudes who popped some caps on Tupac. Here's another one... Posted by: Jim at October 16, 2004 05:40 PMHmmm. If this waste of protoplasm goes out the way that Tupac, et al., did (i.e., ventilated by one of his microcephalic fellow rappers as part of one of their byzantine private feuds), I'll definitely be citing this as the reason I'm pointing and laughing rather than simply ignoring the event. Posted by: M. Scott Eiland at October 16, 2004 05:51 PMYou know, after that Slate symposium with 25 modern novelists, all of whom who weren't named Roger Simon were voting for Kerry (I exaggerate slightly), I asked in the comments "When did novelists become such Babbitts, so afraid to offend their neighbors that all they can express politically is a timid, conformist vote for Kerry?" I sort of missed the old brio of the swaggering Norman Mailer type who would have ranted about incipient fascism and the ugliness of the American soul, let alone the kind of Romantic excess you once saw in the way novelists like Hamsun or D'Annunzio actually swooned FOR fascism, hook line and sinker. They had big balls in those days, novelists, if no more brains than they do now. But, of course, I should have known that if novelists are neutered creatures today, one need only move over to rap to find that street cred is purchased by saying and doing the most abhorrent thing possible. Thank God novelists aren't that debauched, is all I can say. rap is just hypnotic word rappers not worth piles of turd Posted by: rgb at October 16, 2004 06:11 PMhe's: ignorant; biting the hand; the MSM would never hawk the wares of a white supremacist or a misogynist. but if you hate America... which proves whose side the MSM is really on. like the man said: they're not pacifists; they're on the other side. Posted by: daniel at October 16, 2004 06:12 PMUm, you shouldn't pay much attention to Kris. This is a man with a huge ego who used to be considered the peak of his profession…. 15 years ago. Then, he um, got old and everybody moved on. But his ego remains. So he has been blatantly grasping for attention the past 10 years or so. He has done everything from releasing a Christian gospel rap album (contradicting his former barking about religion) to trying to start beef with Nelly (even though Nelly did nothing to him) in hopes of selling records. And now this. Don't take the man seriously; he is just looking for attention. But most people who listen to rap don't know he exists anymore, or view him as the eccentric uncle who was great in his prime, but fell off. So don't worry, nobody buys his music anymore. Posted by: Mr Alex at October 16, 2004 06:14 PMWhatever ride Parker buys, if he has half a brain it'll be bulletproof. Posted by: G Hamid at October 16, 2004 06:15 PMNobody has bought KRS-ONE CDs in a long time. The last time I remember seeing anything about KRS-ONE was when he guested on REM's "Out Of Time" album in 1991. When you're fat, almost 40, still a rapper, and your career has long since waned, no wonder people like him say such stupid things. Posted by: 29 at October 16, 2004 06:21 PMHe'd better worry about Puff Diddy - he says "Vote or Die". Now Kris comes along and says "Voting in a corrupt society adds more corruption" I smell a blood feud coming on. Especially since KRS1 is siphoning off some of P.D.'s 40 million hip hop voters. Posted by: Jack at October 16, 2004 06:23 PMIf BMW has any moral sense, it will do the right thing and refuse to sell this fool an M5. But they are the same company that's been foisting i-Drive and Chris Bangle's styling upon the world. So moral sensability is likely too much to expect. Posted by: John Pearley Huffman at October 16, 2004 06:37 PMThe last time *I* remember seeing anything about KRS-ONE was when he beat the crap out of the guy from P.M. Dawn in a nightclub. That must have been '92, '93. Posted by: joe at October 16, 2004 06:42 PMAbsolutely disgusting (I'm in need of an Absolute right now.) But, really ... ho HUM, no one will call 'em on it. It is unbelievable what the uneducated believe in our country. Posted by: Carin at October 16, 2004 06:43 PMI just watched the Kevin Smith movie "Chasing Amy" last night before reading KRS-One's comments. In the movie, there was a character who during interviews was the quintesential Angry Black Man. But then as soon as he got through being interviewed he ended up being one of the gayest people you had ever met. He was later talking to Ben Afflecks character and said was only the Angry Black Man to sell books. Hmmmmm..... Posted by: Mike at October 16, 2004 07:19 PMi'm alway amazed to see it. it's easy to think crazy things when a pressing reality isn't correcting them. if you live in a poor and corrupt country, maybe Norht Korea, misinterpretting your circumstances can easily result in your death. here in america, you can spend your whole life being wrong about what you think you see and the govt will still protect you and our economic machine will let you ride on it's back keeping you warm and fed and disease free. maybe his career would pick up if went back into dropping K-bombs instead of ignorant-bombs? Posted by: jason at October 16, 2004 07:29 PM Remember in the movie Demolition I wish there were like devices The thing is, this is the first anybody has heard from KRS-One in about 10 years. Seriously. Big time Where-Are-They-Now job. Posted by: Johnny Walker Red at October 16, 2004 07:37 PMC) Neither. He never sold records before. Why would he now? Posted by: Jim Treacher at October 16, 2004 07:43 PMI think his 15 minutes are about up. He'll have to come up with another gimmick. It's easy to tear down, but not so easy to build something worthwhile. That's why you don't see too many old punks. (I'm not saying they don't exist, just that a lot of them burn out or grow up.) Posted by: AST at October 16, 2004 07:48 PMI think his 15 minutes are about up. He'll have to come up with another gimmick. It's easy to tear down, but not so easy to build something worthwhile. That's why you don't see too many old punks. (I'm not saying they don't exist, just that a lot of them burn out or grow up.) Posted by: AST at October 16, 2004 07:48 PMAnthony, That would be news to my local BMW dealership which is selling M5's. The new BMW's are beyond ugly. Go Benz if you're going German. (We detest the Germans but we love their cars.) And I sure hope HomeSec is closely watching this Parker idiot and all those like him. Posted by: Peg C. at October 16, 2004 07:48 PM"They don't sell the M5 anymore in the US, only the M3 (check out bmwusa.com). More likely he'll buy some large SUV." I work in a major recording studio in NYC. Those thugs are usually pulling up when I'm leaving for the day. The Cadillac Escalade and Hummers seem to be the vehicles of choice, always with drivers of the matching ethnic origin. How ironic. Posted by: Nope, I don't wanna lose my job at October 16, 2004 08:15 PMNo BMWs until the flense Bangle and replace iDrive which is run by Windows CE with something run by a true RTOS. Posted by: Robert Schwartz at October 16, 2004 08:20 PMJudge your neighborhood's health by the cars. If rap's pouring out, then crap's rolling in. Posted by: The Sanity Inspector at October 16, 2004 09:07 PMThough Bangle isn't my favorite designer, unlike most of the people here, I've actually met him while covering the North American auto shows and he seems like a decent sort of fellow. I think it's sort of ironic that Bangle has been criticized for the "same sausage, different lengths" styling that permeates the BMW line, yet when he's done some unusual styling that doesn't exactly follow corporate styling DNA (a cliche I hate, but it's handy shorthand for a company's stylistic signatures) as in the 7 Series' bustle butt and headlight eyebrows or the Z4's slashing bodywork, he gets criticized for that too. BTW, the '05 Detroit show should be a monster. Chrysler will probably be showing the new Dodge Charger for the first time and Daimler is introducing their Smart line to North America. Posted by: ronnie at October 16, 2004 09:50 PMHow about c): Some dark night, completely invisible people, working ninja-style, suddenly appear in the rapper's bedroom, throw a blanket over his head so he can't see who's doing it, beat the holy living shit out of him, and put a "You have just been visited by the Punisher. Be warned" card (without any fingerprints on it) on the bureau for him to find when he regains consciousness again as they leave. Or maybe d): During the next terrorist assault on one of our skyscrapers, he's in it, and fries on the 95th floor; for weeks afterward, his comments while alive about 9-11 are posted all over the Internet, driving all his fans crazy (this one is sort of deus ex machina, but hey, even God happens sometimes)? Or even e) he goes on tour in the Middle East, and terrorists of the same mental caliber as the ones who recently bombed Mecca grab him, haul him away to a hidden haunt, and cut off his head on-camera, then show the film all over the place, so that the URLs of those sites running it get picked up by bloggers, who gleefully put them up everywhere possible (see previous comments), or f)(a variant of (e) he goes on tour in the Ukarine and shoots his mouth off the same way in public there, and is pulled offstage by a howling mob of grieving relatives of those children who were murdered by terrorists at that school, who do him in in extremely interesting ways, posting the results on umpteen bazilion websites (see previous comments about God happening sometimes)? That work? Posted by: Yael Dragwyla at October 16, 2004 10:01 PMThe good news is that Choice B provides the same advantages as Choice A, but it takes longer, and there's no need for "jackbooted thugs". Mental midgets such as this usually end up doing themselves in before they're 50, and this tub of neuron-deficient jello is fast approaching this. Add a fast sports car, an over-inflated ego, and a "little something to liven things up", and you end up with a spam sandwich - using SPAM in its ORIGINAL, TECHNICAL and biological meaning. Posted by: Old Patriot at October 16, 2004 10:03 PMPlease someone burn this person at the stake for this heresy. Posted by: MustangDale at October 17, 2004 12:30 AMAs an old M5 owner, I will commit "surrogate suicide"* if B happens. * have some hereto unknown rap artist die for me. Posted by: SezaGeoff at October 17, 2004 01:39 AMPublicity stunt to make more money in the Capitalistic society he so despises! Posted by: Southernlady at October 17, 2004 04:55 AMIf the Bushies ever hear about this, I'd say A. And from the sound of these comments, most of you fit in fine with the fascism that the rapper dude condemns. Gotta love that First Amendment... Posted by: super_math_geek at October 17, 2004 06:27 AMUnlike most of the rest of us, Kris Parker will fade as fashionability clips his wings (most of us survive fashionability by being pre-faded). Having fed his irrational anger with pharmaceutical and libidinous excesses, he will pursue eternal youth to the ruin of his fortune. He will do Hollywood Squares before suffering either a heart attack, failed liver, failed kidneys, or all three, and perish into obscurity trying to recollect exactly why he tried to radicalize the masses. Final lights will reveal that monied liberals in New York City demanded it, and he complied until ironic exploitation caused them to discard him. Revenge is a dish best eaten cold. Posted by: TheGeezer at October 17, 2004 07:45 AMThe only thing that really surprised me when I read this is that 'defiled the memory of those who died in the terrorist attacks as he spouted off' actually appeared in a newspaper. 'Spouted off'? It seems odd that anyone other than a Republican would 'sneer' or 'spout off' in a newspaper. KRS-1 is as old as Grandmaster Flash... but without the sense of humor. Haven't seen his name in ages. Posted by: eLarson at October 17, 2004 07:48 AMSomething to keep in mind... You can't spell CRAP without RAP... Posted by: Just a Thought at October 17, 2004 08:52 AMCome one! Everyone knows that anyone worth their bling in hip hop drives a Bentley. Although, I think Bugattis are now vying for that top spot. KRS1 can talk for attention all he wants. No one has cared about him since the early 90s. When you say complete disgusting and appalling crap like that it comes back to haunt you someday - one hundred times over. Posted by: Maureen at October 17, 2004 09:21 AMHave to agree with some of the posters here ... Stephen giving this guy ink is falling right into his terrorist (t)rap. Posted by: slim at October 17, 2004 09:36 AMGo look at what he actually has to say at http://www.allhiphop.com/editorial/?ID=218 KRS was half of the duo Boogie Down Productions. The other half was DJ Scott LaRock, who was gunned down years ago. What would KRS think if some white goofball said "white people cheered as another black thug drug dealer was gunned down." Posted by: Duane at October 17, 2004 09:42 AMNihilistic messages from a rapper...wow that is new! No doubt he will get some sort of award. In the UK a black rapper sings about killing gays and what happens...he gets a freaking MOBO award! Posted by: Andrew Ian Dodge at October 17, 2004 10:05 AMHere is some very 1988 trivia. KRS-One stands for Knowledge Reigns Supreme Over Nearly Everyone. Thanks for reading. Posted by: Hip-Hop-Hooray at October 17, 2004 10:43 AMFrankly I don't care what it stands for. I'm sick of these intellectual wannabes who think they can channel profundity through ignorance. Posted by: Brian Macker at October 17, 2004 11:11 AMIf you want to know what fascism is, there's this classic essay. Any similarities to Bush war and campaign rhetoric are, I'm sure, purely coincidental... Posted by: Phoenician in a time of Romans at October 17, 2004 03:21 PMYes, it's pointless arguing with guys like this. But you think he ever set foot in the World Trade Center? I worked there. So, in point of fact, did plenty of African-Americans. Check the roll of the dead some time. Posted by: Crank at October 17, 2004 05:24 PMLet's see: "The really dangerous American fascists are not those who are hooked up directly or indirectly with the Axis. The FBI has its finger on those. The dangerous American fascist is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information. With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power." - VP Henry Wallace, 1944. "Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power." - Giovanni Gentile, later claimed also by Mussolini And now these two pieces of news: Hmmm... Its NOT "CREEPING FASCISM", but CREEPING "DE-REGULATED", i.e. COMPETITIVE, COMMUNISM, akin to the Cold War labels and Comunism-based precepts of SOVIETIZATION, RUSSIFICATION, SINOFICATION, STALINIZATION, LENINIZATION, MAOSIFICATION, SLAVICIZATION, ....etc. all RIGHTIST/FASCIST concepts used by the allegedly "former" and Ultra-Left SOcialist=Communist USSR, nka SSSSSSSHHHHHH, STILL COMMUNISM-CENTRIC, COMMUNIST-CONTROLLED "FASCIST-RIGHTIST-NATIONALIST" RUSSIA, and wannabe CHINA! The REAL THREAT to America and the West is from INVISIBLE/CREEPING/ Last time I checked, Clinton didn't have any "official" power in the US, so if he can really pull this off, that would be amazing. On the other hand, "being POTUS only by ELECTION FRAUD" and "a POLITICALLY CORRECT/DENIABLE DIVERSION"... hmm... that sounds like someone that really *does* have power as the President... Posted by: super_math_geek at October 18, 2004 05:57 AMA couple of things to all you VP readers (This comment will prove to be rather unpopular, especially in this thread): 1. KRS-One is entitled to speaking his mind (much like the rest of us), although he chooses to spout off in an ill-advised, DELUSIONAL rant. I’ll admit, he’s an IDIOT for saying what he said. >Anyone who can’t appreciate a musical art form ... Art form? Yea, like making sculptures with human feces, maybe. Rap isn't music. It isn't art. It isn't hip. It isn't informed. It is annoying, loud, obnoxious, incoherent street babble about drugs, killing, rape, and gang wars. Art form - surely you jest. Posted by: Admiral Akbar at October 18, 2004 09:43 AM"It is annoying, loud, obnoxious, incoherent street babble about drugs, killing, rape, and gang wars" Poor Akbar, that's political discourse, in a nutshell. Why are you even on this blog? Posted by: Senor C at October 18, 2004 10:35 AM Not all rap is bad, and some of it is quite good. Like everything, you gotta shop around. KRS-One's has never interested me much, and he's got some pretty sad ideas about how the world works, but he's a little ways down the list of rappers who need a beatin'. Not much, but a little. Posted by: Uncle Mikey at October 18, 2004 01:02 PMSaying rap is all about rape and gang wars is like saying rock is all about drugs and devil worshipping, or that country is all about ex-wives and tractor pulls, or that classic music is all about minuets and powdered wigs, or that jazz is all about salt and peanuts. Wait a minute, maybe it's all true. Posted by: MrProliferation at October 18, 2004 01:18 PMRap isn't music. It isn't art. It isn't hip. It isn't informed. Even as I dislike the guy, you have to admit Eminem is bloody clever at what he does. Posted by: Phoenician in a time of Romans at October 18, 2004 03:17 PMRap isn't music. It isn't art. It isn't hip. It isn't informed. Even as I dislike the guy, you have to admit Eminem is bloody clever at what he does. Posted by: Phoenician in a time of Romans at October 18, 2004 03:18 PM |
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