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Don't Panic!
Posted by Stephen Green · 1 September 2004
Josh Marshall has some criticism and advice for the Kerry Campaign, and it's spot-on: There are articles about a possible shake-up among high-level staffers, blind quotes from Democratic insiders saying that after a couple more days it may be too late; and I've gotten a slew of emails from readers either asking me if I still think there's hope or ranting that they've had it with Mary Beth Cahill or Stephanie Cutter or someone else. I gave my own advice to the Democrats after the disastrous 2002 election -- What your problem really boils down to is, the War is a trump card and you refuse to play it. -- but it's pretty clear they didn't read the letter. Comments
The purpose of all military action is to destroy the enemies will to fight. What the Bush campaign has already accomplished is to make the Kerry campaign question itself, which means its losing faith, which means - the ranks are beginning to break and 'the center will not hold'. It takes a special kind of leader to hold his troops in line when the whiff of fear gets into the air. Fear is contagious and once it gets started, its a bitch to stop. This is Kerrys test, We shall see how he does. Posted by: Frank Martin at September 1, 2004 11:08 AMThis post kind of implies that your advice and Marshall's are linked somehow. That's not the case. Marshall is whistling past the graveyard saying the Dems fears are not legit. Your comments from 2002 show why the Democrats are heading toward another debacle. Posted by: YankeeVulture at September 1, 2004 11:17 AMThe Democrats are only failing on two levels, strategically and tactically. Kerry the candidate is as good as done. Barring some radical unforseen event, Kerry will continue to fade and we'll all be placing bets on Bush's margin of victory two months from now. Kerry's failures are well known, and really there isn't much left that the campaign or the DNC can do to salvage the situation. Kerry isn't the kind of guy who can stop on a dime and reinvent himself overnight. It simply isn't going to happen, even with an army of John Marshalls giving pep talks. The greater problem is that Democrats can't admit who they really are and be accepted by America. Why didn't they run Dean, the guy they really wanted? Even they knew he could never win. What does it say about a political party when they admit that their own preferred candidate doesn't stand a chance in hell of being elected? It's easy to be fooled by the media, but look around. Republicans own this country. White house, Congress, governorships, state legislatures. This isn't about the Democrats being demoralized, it's about them being rejected wholesale by the American people and refusing to examine why or even acknowledge it. It might do them some good to *start* panicking. Posted by: Mike M at September 1, 2004 11:18 AMYankee, I didn't mean to make that implication at all. If my advice and Marshall's are in any way linked, it's only that the Kerry Campaign won't listen to either of us. Posted by: Stephen Green at September 1, 2004 11:21 AMStephen, I have a suggestion for little contest ycu might run. My wife thinks that there needs to be a pithy name to counter the 'chickenhawk' label - you know, anyone who supports war withhout having been in one - a fovorite of the Kerry crowd. What do you call a person who denigrates the very people who allow him to "sleep safely in a warm bed because others are willing to do violence on his behalf"? Posted by: YankeeVulture at September 1, 2004 11:44 AM'What do you call a person who denigrates the very people who allow him to "sleep safely in a warm bed because others are willing to do violence on his behalf"?' A Democrat, or a liberal, or John Kerry. Posted by: Silicon Valley Jim at September 1, 2004 11:48 AM'What do you call a person who denigrates the very people who allow him to "sleep safely in a warm bed because others are willing to do violence on his behalf"?' Some bloggers were floating the term 'turtledove' a while ago... Posted by: non at September 1, 2004 11:52 AMThe pubbies do not own Congress. I don't have my judges. The Gang of 41 can do what they want at will, but chose not to stop the budget process. Posted by: Sandy P at September 1, 2004 12:30 PMMr Marshall is more correct than he knows or cares to admit. "As a group they seem to have a great tendency toward becoming disheartened, turning on their candidate, doubting his strategy, doubting his advisors, and so forth. Unfortunately, the candidates and advisors have an equal tendency to be open to that kind of fretting." America's enemies would feast on people like this. Posted by: tony maritato at September 1, 2004 12:32 PMThis election is not going to be a Reagan/Modale, Bush/Dukakis romp. My thinking is that it will be a Clinton/Dole like contest. The Dems can't get over their anger at Bush, but they can't deliver more than anger. That's not going to ever convince the unconvinced, because they have to be angry first, which they aren't. Second, the unconvinced shy away from frothing partisans like the plague. August was the beginning of the end for Kerry starting with his Convention Speech. He admitted it himself when he wanted a weekly debate. Who asks for such things? The loser. Posted by: Jim B at September 1, 2004 12:55 PMThe Democratic Party is, above all, an institution. It's ideals have some ideological and historical basis, but at the end of the day, they are very malleable. In other words, the DNC as an institution is in no real danger. There are always going to be 2 major parties. Both parties change their positions to maintain an adequate portion of the electorate. However, in this particular case, the GOP has positioned itself very well as the party of security- which is an extremely powerful hand to play. Bizarrely, the Democrats responded to this problem by nominating someone completely unelectable, regardless of the times. I think I have a pretty good handle on politics... but Kerry's nomination is something I will never understand. Posted by: John at September 1, 2004 01:16 PMThe Democrats are only failing on two levels, strategically and tactically. Somebody's channeling Norman Schwarzkopf. I love it. Posted by: McGehee at September 1, 2004 02:30 PMThis reminds me of a quote by the late Harold Ickes: "I get very tired of the smug self - satisfaction, the holier - than - thou attitude, the sneering meticulousness of men and women with whose outlook on economic and social questions I often regretfully find myself in accord. They rush to the aid of any liberal victor, and then proceed to stab him in the back when he fails to perform the mental impossibility of subscribing unconditionally to their dozen or more conflicting principles. They cannot lead, they will not follow, and they refuse to cooperate." Harold Ickes (1874 - 1952) American administrator & politician Posted by: Larry J at September 1, 2004 02:35 PMIn other words, the DNC as an institution is in no real danger. There are always going to be 2 major parties. Both parties change their positions to maintain an adequate portion of the electorate. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Whigs once felt the same way. Posted by: rosignol at September 1, 2004 03:04 PMJust remember, in the Iowa caucuses we were all told that Dean had it wrapped up, that he had the best ground game and he had the heart of the party and all the money. The Iowa Democrat voters smiled politely, wore those goofy orange 'Dean' caps. Pollsters got lots of solid Dean support answers.Pundits patted themselves on the back. And despite all of that, the Iowa voters went in and voted for someone else. Its my guess, that we have alot of that going on this year. No one wants to stick their neck out in public when the atmosphere is so charged, but I think the support for Bush is much more solid than it ever was for Kerry. Dick Morris - ( I know.....) had a great breakdown of the polls last night where he pointed out the the Bush presidency has solid (+80%!) support by people who were voting for Bush, but for people who who were voting for Kerry, there were deeply divided on every single issue(except that Kerry is not Bush, and that was only by a plurality). I think we are going to see a lot of people sitting on their hands on the Democrat side this year. The anger thing can only get your base energized, but it wont help you with independants and it wont help you get Republicans and there are alot more 9/11 democrats than many people want to believe, including themselves. The Democrats are much more of a "coalition" style party and the only part of the coalition that I think Kerry has a lock on are the "moonbats". I dont think Kerry's got a solid lock on any other component of the traditional Democrat core. This whole RNC convention is designed to do one thing and thats strip the Democrat core out of their party. And from what I've seen so far, its doing exactly that. Posted by: Frank Martin at September 1, 2004 03:08 PMThe Democrat Party is gone. It is anti-capitalism and anti-war. I might survive one or the other. It can't survive both.
Steal this sig: George Bush never called me “baby killer”. There is a big difference between William Calley and John Kerry. William Calley is a proven war criminal. For John Kerry we only have his word as an officer and a gentleman. What is the War Hero Afraid of? "I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Whigs once felt the same way. " I mean in the forseeable future. Think about how many platforms have been submitted under the "Democrat" banner. Posted by: John at September 1, 2004 03:56 PMMy advice to the Kerry campaign is don't make Zell (and others) any madder. Posted by: Sandy P at September 1, 2004 10:08 PMThe Democrats don't believe in the American Idea any longer. If they don't recapture that believe, they are doomed. Personally, I look forward to that day with some sense of ugency because until we finally put a stake in the heart of the anti-American vampire controlling the Left, we can not resolve the growing conflict among those who still believe in America. Until the Democrat party is done and gone and replaced by something else, we can't in earnest start the debate between the Schwarzeneggers and the Ralph Reeds. Posted by: (the other) John Hawkins at September 1, 2004 11:25 PM Most committed Democrats are living in a bubble it seems to me. They simultaneously disdain the majority of Americans and yet believe that those same Americans should follow them because they know better. It's the sort of simplistic 'two America' view that they would deride Bush for, yet they've never quite been able to grasp that most of us see right through it. Apropos is my recent post on how the Democrats never break 50% of the popular vote except in extraordinary circumstances. Maybe because they keep running candidates whose sense of entitlement to the office of so odiferously obvious. Posted by: MartiniPundit at September 2, 2004 08:22 AMWith a slight modification .. "This is one of the worst things about Democrats, as a group they seem to have a great tendency toward becoming disheartened, turning on their leaders, doubting his strategy, doubting his advisors, and so forth." Sounds like what I've seen in the past 3+ years. I'm glad to see that Josh sees it too. Posted by: J_Crater at September 2, 2004 09:55 AM |
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