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Posted by Will Collier  ·   6 August 2004

Bill Hobbs has a blurb today about people intentionally putting phony information in registration-required media site sign-ins, quoting NYU professor Adam L. Penenberg in Wired,

Depending on my mood, I'm a 92-year-old spinster from Topeka whose hobbies include snowboarding, macramé and cryptology; the CEO of a successful high-tech firm in Bumblebutt, New York, whose company has a market capitalization of four cents; or an Alaskan mango grower. What magazines do I read? Soldier of Fortune, Modern Bride, Granta and High Times. Date of birth? Dec. 7, 1941. July 4, 1976. Jan. 1, 1901. My name? Jed Clampett, Mustang Sally or Freddy Fudbuster.

I'm with Fudbuster--er, Penenberg. I've never given a single snippet of accurate information to any registration page. I also don't allow any of my banks or credit card issuers to share my information with others, and I go out of my way to anonymize attempts to "data mine" me, i.e., deleting cookies on a regular basis, and using a Kroger discount card that I found on the ground in Centennial Park.

That's not because I'm afraid of Big Brother; what the hell--I've been investigated for security clearances. The government knows chapter, verse, and correct spelling on me. And you know what, they have good reason to. I agreed to those investigations of my own free will, nobody put a gun to my head.

But I sure as hell never agreed to let the New York Times or Atlanta Urinal-Constipation collect information about me, and I'll be damned if I ever do so willingly. It's not just an invasion of my privacy--it's an insult, and it's collecting on the cheap. You want information out of me that's valuable, you can pay me something for it. Otherwise, as far as you're concerned, my name is Nunya Biznis.

Not only do I refuse to enter remotely accurate information, I use BugMeNot's anonymous logins whenever possible, since they have the added benefit of completely screwing up the Big Media databases. I encourage you to do the same, and to spread the word about BugMeNot and similar sites.

UPDATE: All apologies, I completely botched the BugMeNot link above before splitting for dinner. It's working now.

Comments

One of the first extensions I installed on Firefox was a BugMeNot pop-up that offers a login and password, if available, for whatever page I'm viewing.

Sweet.

Posted by: McGehee at August 6, 2004 03:49 PM

"You want information out of me that's valuable, you can pay me something for it"

They are giving us something valuable . . .news, information, commentary . . . and that is paid for by subscribers and advertisers. The information they are collecting is used both for the advertisers, which pays for the content, and for deciding on what content to put on websites. So if the population is suddenly a lot of 92 year old Chileans. . .

Posted by: Kat at August 6, 2004 04:02 PM

Here, here, Steve. I like to list an income in the highest bracket and then report my profession as a clerk.

Posted by: jack white at August 6, 2004 04:58 PM

http://schweitn.blogspot.com/2004/08/web-readers-are-supposedly-men.html

I'll go one step further. Being a Software Engineer, I commonly have to deal with customers that are having problems with systems. One of the more common problems I face is what I call the "Make It Go Away Syndrome". This is where an error message pops up on the screen, and the user will simply click Ok, or Cancel, without even looking at the message or writing it down, just to make it go away. Could this not be happening when it comes to online registration forms? Even if users aren't trying to lie, they might just be filling in the bare minimum to continue. Since your sex is usually presented in a drop down combo box, with male usually being the first choice, a woman who just wants to get past the form may not change the setting, fill in the other required boxes, and click ok. Suddenly she is a man to that website collecting statistics.

Posted by: Nick at August 6, 2004 05:32 PM

Is there a BugMeNot page? Sorry I'm a very linear thinker.

Posted by: erp at August 6, 2004 06:38 PM

> They are giving us something valuable . .
> news, information, commentary . . . and
> that is paid for by subscribers and
> advertisers. The information they are
> collecting is used both for the advertisers,
> which pays for the content, and for
> deciding on what content to put on
> websites. So if the population is
> suddenly a lot of 92 year old Chileans. . .

This is not the problem. I don't care if they collect viewing statistics so they can figure out what the *POPULATION* is interested in. That is a legitimate business need. After all, they somehow want to figure out what's hot and what's not. However, I do have a problem when different ad agencies (doubleclick, for example) track *MY* viewing habits across sites. This is a serious invasion on my privacy.

Here is an excellent article which describes a serious privacy problem:
http://slashdot.org/yro/99/10/22/0249212.shtml

By providing personal information, and connecting my general viewing habits with data http://slashdot.org/yro/99/10/22/0249212.shtmlfrom doubleclick, it is pretty easy to build a personal profile with actual data.

For erp: The BugMeNot is http://www.bugmenot.com.

Vilmos

Posted by: Vilmos Soti at August 6, 2004 06:57 PM

Heh. My usual choice for an e-mail address when I'm registering online somewere that doesn't have an actual e-mail confirmation is sithlord@deathstar.mil

Posted by: Cybrludite at August 6, 2004 09:11 PM

I usually use "laexaminer", "laexaminer", which works at pretty much every news site out there.

Posted by: Eric the .5b at August 6, 2004 09:47 PM

Now that I am totally shit-faced, the proper response to your query seems all too obvious:

Who would give an honest answer (and why would someone, who replied sincerely), be of interest?

Do I hear the faint sound of chainsaws, no, telemarketers, in the distance?

Who would give an honest answer?

Posted by: jack white at August 6, 2004 10:37 PM

Check this out:

http://bugmenot.com/register.php

Sums it up nicely, no?

Posted by: null at August 7, 2004 05:44 PM

Sites requiring registration usually come with an Agreement you are ask to read and agree to regarding use of information you provide.

You may even be allowed to opt out of all use of information and still
register and enter the site.

If no Agreement is provided describing use, or non-use of your information, I would say this site is fair game for providing false information.

However, if the site does provide an Agreement describing use of information, then they are being up front with you and you should be up-front with them if you want what they are providing on their site.

If you don't like their Agreement,
then don't agree and leave their site. If a person or company is decent and up-front with you, you owe them the same.

Posted by: Jim R at August 7, 2004 06:53 PM

I particularly like the last few questions on the http://bugmenot.com/register.php

page.

"Have you ever contemplated overthrow of a government?"

"I consent to having this information sold to the highest bidder on eBay."


Nice. I'd copy that registration form for my website, if I had a website. See I respect your privacy so much, I won't even have a website to track your websurfing on.


Posted by: fred at August 7, 2004 08:14 PM

Will:

Then pony up the four bits for a newstand copy ad quit using their product for free, ya'cheapskate.

--furious

Posted by: furious_a at August 8, 2004 02:35 PM



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