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A Small Fisking
Posted by Stephen Green · 22 February 2004
CNN Correspondent Kasra Naji explains why the reformers lost in Iran's recent parliamentary election: They lost a good deal of credibility with the Iranian public because they failed to initiate many of the reforms they had promised. One could argue that in parliament their efforts to legislate reformist bills were blocked at every turn by the hardline Guardian Council. And there is plenty of evidence to back that argument. Ahem. Could it be the reformers lost because the most well-known ones were banned from running? Could they have failed in their reforms because they've been stymied (sometimes jailed or disappeared) by the mullahs? Could they have "proved feeble" because of Iran's increasingly thuggish police state? And how much more firmly could they have stood against the hardliner's "excesses outside parliament," when those excesses included the murder and imprisonment of the reformer's student allies? If you ever wonder why CNN is accused of bias, look no further than the words of their own correspondents.
Comments
Feh. What Liberal bias in the news? Posted by: Cybrludite at February 22, 2004 02:23 PM[says in a zombie-like monotone voice] That's not liberal bias, Cybrludite. A real liberal would be against fascism. These people aren't real liberals. They're stodgy, uninformed apparatchiks. CNN is just a bureaucracy only interested in access. They soft pedaled the horrors of Saddam so they could stay in Iraq and here they are again soft pedalling the evil of the mullahs. Even worse. CNN is our own Pravda. Pravda wasn't liberal. It was totalitarian. Posted by: Roger L. Simon at February 22, 2004 04:59 PM...and one wonders how the liberal media can't see the liberal bias, but they can certainly point out the conservative bias in other media outlets. CNN is cetainly bias, they just don't see it becasue of there bias. Posted by: Keith at February 22, 2004 04:59 PMLet's be charitable. Isn't it possible it's not bias, merely incompetence? With far less in the way of resources, CNN continues to suck hind . . . drag behind FOX. So maybe what looks on the face like bias, is ineptness. Posted by: Jerry at February 22, 2004 05:06 PMDear Mr. Green: What you're neglecting is that if CNN reported what's actually going on, they'd lose access. And if they lost access they couldn't report whatever it is they're reporting which certainly isn't the news. Posted by: Dave Schuler at February 22, 2004 05:17 PMI wonder if they're paying the Iranians for access to the country and the privilege of covering up the truth just like they paid the Iraqis. Posted by: Mike Rentner at February 22, 2004 05:19 PMBased on his track record with Iraq and other dictatorships and repressive regimes, how much bribe money do you think that CNN's Eason Jordan pays Iranian officials to get hardliner-filtered access to Iran? Posted by: Laurence Simon at February 22, 2004 06:03 PMI personally like the idea of incompetence. And that's based in part on lack of access. One can speculate all day. But that's not "news." Posted by: Steve at February 22, 2004 06:09 PMRoger your correct it is not liberal bias. It is there typical bias. They always lean Socialist at CNN. Socialism in real world practice has always slowly worked it's way toward Totaltarism. CNN has no problem with Totalarism when it is perform with a centralized Socialist Premise. It is exactly from this basis why Liberalism has become a bad name in America. It has almost no Libertarian concepts left. They have a total desire to centrally micromanage our lives. Posted by: Bill Hoshor at February 22, 2004 06:13 PMYeah, I think Mr. Simon is right on this one. Believe me, I'd like nothing more than to yell "liberal bias" from the highest hilltop and I think he's a little off in saying liberals are against fascism, rather they are against fascism only when it's a pro-American fascist. However, I think most people are correct that in this case they whitewashing the issue here because of the issue of access (a la Iraq) and also partially because of incompetence. Remeber, they reported on the "election" of Saddam in the fall of 2002 as an actual event that was legitamate in that "different strokes for different folks" form of "objectivity". Oh sure, they covered themselves with the "some say the election is not legitamate" game but they refused to call a spade a spade and say that it was not democractic but the electoral equivalent of a shotgun wedding. Iran's election was only slightly more representative than the average Cuban election, but it was not legitamate in any meaningful way. Surely, CNN knows this, but it's either blinded by values-free so-called objectivity (all sides are equal) or they are just sucking up for access. Now, what would be nice is if Fox News or somebody would highlight this and ask CNN about this. Posted by: RussGoble at February 22, 2004 06:14 PMI believe Mr. Roger Simon is correct, this isn't a case of liberal bias. If there is bias here it is a bias against competent journalism or worse, as Mr. Lawrence Simon has suggested a bias against independent reporting to maintain the illusion of "access." Truly pathetic. Sorry, that would be Mr. Laurence Simon. Posted by: charles austin at February 22, 2004 06:48 PMDon't get me started on CNN. I remember over the summer when Wolf Blitzer had some blame-America author on CNN and they were talking about Iran. Wolf Blitzer said something like, "there are two trains of thought in Iran -- the reform minded democrats and the `supposed' bad guys." He actually called the mullahs "supposed" bad guys. One only need look to the recent history of CNN and other media giants in Saddam's Iraq. Fear of angering the power thugs who may restrict access, murder sources or worse, CNN and others served as world-ranging megaphones for Saddam's lies. This is the money quote: "I met a lot of people in the past few days... they still would not have voted for them." Same bullcrap, different day.
I was listening to BBC the other day and they were discussing Iran's political make-up. They claimed that, much like the Bush administration, Iran is divided between moderates and hard-liners. I stared at my radio for a minute, amazed, and then had to turn it off. Not only was it a stupid comment, but it had no relation to the point of the piece. Posted by: Greg at February 22, 2004 07:28 PMThis quote is from CNN's main story on the Iranian "elections": "Some [Iranian] analysts and intellectuals have started to openly complain that Iran is becoming a religious dictatorship, little different from the monarchy deposed 25 years ago." 'Becoming a religious dictatorship...' What planet are these CNN guys living on? http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/02/22/iran.elections/index.html Posted by: John Galt at February 22, 2004 07:52 PMNaji has a serious case of rose-colored- glasses going on. His words aren't biased, his view of the whole situation is hopelessely naieve. He may as well been describing a midterm congressional election in the United States when he was looking at a stacked deck election in a backwards mullahocracy. CNN has more to worry about than bias in this case. Sloppy journalism and a complete vacancy of history and context are for more egregious errors here. Posted by: Mike M at February 22, 2004 07:58 PMI don't think it's necessarily bias, I think it's just a narrow worldview combined with cluelessness and idiocy. There's a very odd tendency in journalism not to question authority unless it's western and especially American authority. Which just goes to show how tremendously unsophisticated most reporters really are, rather than the opposite, which they would have us believe. Posted by: Robin Goodfellow at February 22, 2004 09:31 PMIf they focused on the injustice of the elections it would reinforce the current conservative worldview. This would help Bush, even if indirectly, in the coming election. In similar fashion, they are not portraying any positive developments in Iraq, which are widespread. Posted by: Buffalo Bill at February 22, 2004 10:04 PMYou think the US anchors are bad, CNN Int'l -especially in the morning- is the worst. Richard Quest and Becky Anderson are blowhards and in love with the sound of their own voices. When interviewing guests, Ms Anderson makes grand guestures with her hands (as if that makes her questions more intellectual) & Mr Quest has the ridiculous rolling of his Rs (Brrrrrrilliant) which distracts viewers on what's being said. Each will ask a question, then rephrase it 2 or 3 times as if the viewer doesn't understand. It's too much to stomach anymore. Posted by: R. Nielsen at February 23, 2004 01:29 AMIt's time to stop pretending that CNN is simply "biased" and start looking at the bigger picture of why CNN reporting is almost indistinguishable from Al Jazeera. I’m tired of hearing blatant propaganda being described as “bias”. Granting it this polite euphemism is becoming unacceptable in light of the egregious lies that they have been perpetuating on behalf of murderous tyrants. Dismissing it as "bias" is to ignore the mass rape, torture and murder that we now know CNN willfully whitewashes over. Posted by: Becky at February 23, 2004 06:29 AMShouldn't we start a bouycott or something? Instead of just bitching ... Posted by: mike van winkle at February 23, 2004 07:12 AM or a boycott, which ever you prefer. Posted by: mike van winkle at February 23, 2004 07:21 AM“That's not liberal bias, Cybrludite. A real liberal would be against fascism. These people aren't real liberals.” I’m sorry but this line of argumentation leaves much to be desired. These folks call themselves Liberals and would be very upset that they are being excommunicated by Roger Simon. Also, their views reflect many who support the so-called mainstream of the Democrat Party. “If they focused on the injustice of the elections it would reinforce the current conservative worldview. This would help Bush, even if indirectly, in the coming election.” You have arrived at a logical conclusion. Now what should you do about it? Posted by: David Thomson at February 23, 2004 12:18 PMIf 'real liberals' are against fascism, they better sue all of those who supported the continued rule of Saddam, Uday, and Qusay last Spring. It seems like they claimed to be liberal It seems like the only prominent liberal to fit the description of "against fascism in all cases" that I have seen on the subject is Christopher "Hitch the Snitch" Hitchens. Posted by: brb at February 23, 2004 03:22 PMFascism has always been popular on the left. They cover this fact up by calling it socialism. New wine in old skins. Posted by: M. Simon at February 24, 2004 02:07 AM |
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