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A Rant 6,000 Years In the Making
Posted by Stephen Green · 21 May 2002
Sometimes, Nick Kristof turns in some damn fine work. No, really. Read these three short grafs, then get ready for something special: The old religious right led by Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, trying to battle Satan with school prayers and right-to-life amendments, is on the ropes. It is being succeeded by evangelicals who are using their growing clout to skewer China and North Korea, to support Israel, to fight sexual trafficking in Eastern Europe and slavery in Sudan, and, increasingly, to battle AIDS in Africa. That’s the heart of the column, and he makes points I’d expect to hear from George Will or (shudder) Cal Thomas. Today’s Evangelicals are a different breed from the bunch that helped elect Carter in ’76 and Reagan in ’80 and ’84. And for the most part, they’re a hell of a lot more tolerable, too. And now I’m finally going to lay down the VodkaPundit Line on religion. If you’re religious, you might have noticed that god and all his/her various prophets don’t get much (if any) airtime on my show. I regard organized religion in much the same way a turtle regards a doghouse – I’m pretty well covered, thank you, so let’s just keep ignoring each other. Who am I kidding? That goes for unorganized, disorganized, and semi-pro religion, too. Want to see my eyes glaze over? Use the word “apostle.” Want to get my hackles up? Say you want to save my soul. My soul, my business, and I’ve been known to shoot at trespassers. But enjoy your lovely Sunday, Saturday, or Friday at church/temple/snake pit/whatever. I’ll be shopping. If the whole Christian theology is correct, then I’m certain those cretins with “In Case Of Rapture This Car Will Be Unmanned” bumper stickers are going straight to hell come the Trump and the Shout. Sin of pride and all that. I’m less certain, although it pleases me to think, that those with the stickers saying “In Case Of Rapture, Can I Have Your Car?” will get to spend some quality time with St. Pete in the Head Office, swapping jokes about Jehovah’s Witnesses and sipping some results of Jesus’ first miracle. Islam is a young religion, still angry and bitter that they aren’t as cool as college drop-outs as they were in their high school glory days. Jews have a long and sad history, but one that has taught them how to play well with others. Catholics are lucky enough, thanks to Aquinas, to have much of the same rigorous intellectual tradition as Judaism. Before that, there wasn’t much to recommend the Church, and it still faces serious issues today. I can’t keep track of all the Protestant denominations, so I try not to prejudge anyone based on their church – but I know my social betters, equals, and lessers when I meet them. . . . . .So back off if you don’t have manners enough to keep your silly beliefs as quiet as I keep my silly beliefs. Comments
It sounds to me, Vodka, as if you haven't accepted Jesus Christ into your life as your personal saviour. Heh, sorry, I so couldn't resist that. Posted by: dever at May 21, 2002 07:35 AMIf you want someone to respect your beliefs don't mock theirs. Shut the fuck up. Posted by: Richard Cook at May 21, 2002 09:21 AMI am one of those people with a ‘In Case Of Rapture, Can I Have Your Car?’ stickers on their car. I hope you’re right about us.. Posted by: Mary at May 21, 2002 09:52 AMFYI: Some definitions. An Athiest is someone who does not believe in God. An Agnostic isn't sure. That's what I thought I was. When I joined the Army back in '79 that's what I had them put on my dogtags. You wouldn't believe the trouble I went through for that only to discover a few years later what I actually am which is a Diest. That is someone who knows God exists, but is not sure about religion. This sounds like what you are too. Posted by: Steve Mitterer at May 21, 2002 10:41 AMRichard Cook: It's his damn blog. He gets to say whatever he wants. If you don't like it, read something else. Posted by: Dave Lonborg at May 21, 2002 02:10 PMDave Lonborg Pull your head out: it IS his blog but it does not preclude me from commenting. Its about debate not dictation. Posted by: Richard Cook at May 21, 2002 02:14 PMVodka You DID touch a raw nerve,but, sorry for the language. Lonborg my post still stands. Posted by: Richard Cook at May 21, 2002 02:15 PMLast I checked, "Shut the fuck up" didn't count as debate. Posted by: Dave Lonborg at May 21, 2002 02:51 PMRichard is right, of course. But "shut the fuck up" is NOT debate by any definition. All I asked for in my post was respect and manners enough to be left alone, and I would CONTINUE to do likewise. Get it now, Richard? Posted by: Stephen Green at May 21, 2002 02:52 PMconsider me corrected Stephen. Posted by: Richard Cook at May 21, 2002 03:00 PMAnd Mr. Lonborg- I didn't question his ability to post anything he wanted, my point was don't mock something and expect someone who holds a different opinion to challenge you. Even though it was crude I did not agree with what Stephen said. Posted by: Richard Cook at May 21, 2002 03:04 PMDisagreement is great. I wasn't objecting to your challenging VP's post, nor was I trying to suggest that someone who disagrees with him shouldn't read his stuff. But an irreverent tone isn't too unusual on this site, and I thought that if it offended you that deeply when it's directed at something important to you, maybe you would be happier not risking further offense. If that's not the case, great. Peace. Posted by: Dave Lonborg at May 21, 2002 03:18 PMIf this web site is ever convicted of reverence, Dave, then I shall shut down my server, triple-erase my archives, and forever banish keyboards from my presence. Posted by: Stephen Green at May 21, 2002 03:26 PMThat's one of the reasons some of us like it a lot. Posted by: Dave Lonborg at May 21, 2002 03:28 PMIf this web site is ever convicted of reverence, Dave, then I shall shut down my server, triple-erase my archives, and forever banish keyboards from my presence. Posted by Stephen Green Reverence? What the hel....I mean, Hell is that? BTW, Stephen, I believe I can save your soul.......and redeem it for valuable coupons.
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